Interview Spotlight: Dougal Perman, Director and Co-founder of Inner Ear

Get ready to peek behind the scenes of the podcast sensation, If Glasgow’s Walls Could Talk! Launched in 2021, this podcast has captivated nearly 18,000 listeners across its first two series, and we’re beyond thrilled to announce that Series 3 is just around the corner!

In our exclusive interview with Dougal Perman, Director and co-founder of Inner Ear, producers of If Glasgow’s Walls Could Talk, we uncover the passion and dedication that fuels each episode. Did you know that while hundreds of thousands of podcasts are out there, many struggle to find an audience? Astonishingly, 90% of podcasts don’t get past three episodes, and a jaw-dropping 99% don’t make it to 21 episodes. But If Glasgow’s Walls Could Talk is breaking the mould, having already delivered 21 thrilling episodes we’re now gearing up for another series of 10!

Mark your calendars: Series 3 launches on June 27th, with new episodes dropping every Thursday.

Tune in on our website or wherever you get your podcasts. Don’t miss out on the great stories that bring Glasgow’s vibrant history to life!

Can you tell us a bit about Inner Ear and your involvement with the podcast?

We’ve been creating podcast radio programmes since we launched our underground music internet radio station, Radio Magnetic in 2001. Over the past 23 years we have explored many subjects and told fascinating stories through podcasts. People, places and provenance are of great interest and importance to us so when GCHT approached us we couldn’t resist getting involved.

Inner Ear is the production company that makes the podcast work. We work closely with GCHT and help with the logistical planning, research and briefing of the interviewees and presenters. We take care of the recording, which is a mixture of remote and live in person recordings, with the latter done on location around Glasgow. We then edit the recordings and create the episodes for the podcast series.

My favourite projects are those where we work collaboratively with our client to deliver the project. That is very true of GCHT. All of the team there are passionate about the subject matter, open to trying new ideas and great fun to work with.

How do you think the podcast evolved from its first series to the third? 

When Silvia at GCHT approached me in 2020, she had a clear vision about how to bring the concept to life. Anny and I helped develop the idea and worked out the best way to capture the interviews online, including sourcing affordable equipment and assessing the best platform to use for remote recording. We worked closely with Silvia, Taylor and Niall and created ten episodes that we’re all very proud of. The first series was bursting with ideas and landed very well with the audience. 

At the end of series two we decide to bring in another presenter to share hosting duties with Niall and add another dimension to the conversation. As a journalist and editor with extensive experience, everyone thought Fay, who took care of background research and scripting in series 2, was a natural choice. She is also my Mum, so of course I thought she’d be great for the role, but I tried not to influence the decision. She was a bit shy at first, but we all encouraged her and I hope you’ll agree that she and Niall have a great dynamic together.

Niall, Fay and Dougal from Inner Ear, during the live recording at Central Station.

What has been the most challenging part of producing this series?  

The remote recordings are probably the most tricky. It’s great when everything works well and the platform we use is very good. But when everyone involved is remote there are many variables to contend with including equipment, computers, and internet connections. 

Those challenges are nothing new to us though and we roll with them as best we can. When it comes to live streaming and remote recording, problems arise all the time. As long as you keep calm, keep everyone informed and are methodical about your problem-solving, there’s always a way through.

If you could pick a favourite episode which one would it be and why?

With 30 to choose from over the three seasons so far it’s difficult to pick one. But if I have to, I loved the last episode of series two when Norry Wilson interviewed Niall about his favourite places and the conversations he’d had. It was lively, personal, thought provoking and made me think about Glasgow’s history in a new way, much like the podcast as a whole, I think. Listen here!

Niall Murphy and Norrie Wilson talking
Lost Glasgow's Norry Wilson interviewing Niall for the final episode of Series 2

Why do you think If Glasgow’s Walls Could Talk is so popular? 

Taking another look at buildings and public spaces and thinking about them in a different way is fascinating. The personal perspectives shared with us in the conversations we hear in this podcast prompt us to do that. I think that really resonates with people. 

Finally, can you give us a sneak peek into what listeners can expect in the upcoming series? 

I loved listening to (and producing) the live recording of After The Garden Festival. Having been to the Festival when I was 11 years old, making the journey from my home town of Edinburgh, I still have fond memories of a big day out. Reflecting on the impact of the Garden Festival on Glasgow and how transformative it was for the city was really moving.

A group of people at a live podcast recording. There is a Garden Festival flag on display.
Live recording with After the Garden Festival in the South Rotunda

Catch up on the previous two series of the podcast here before the third one launches next week!

**Sold Out** CPD: Showcasing Stone Carving

An ornately carved stone cross that sits on the top of Miller Hall, a Category A listed church in Dennistoun.

Monday 9th October | 10am – 12 noon | On site at Conservation Masonry, 942-944 South Street, Whiteinch, Glasgow, G14 0AR

This event provides an opportunity to see the craft of stone carving in action, as you’ll see the carving of a new Arts & Crafts influenced stone cross for the apex of the roof at Miller Hall.  A Category A-listed historic church in Dennistoun, designed by celebrated architect James Miller, the building was previously known as St Andrew’s East Church and was converted into flats in the early 2000s.

The historic cross is beginning to disintegrate and can’t be left in place due to the risk of pieces of stone falling. It is too important a feature to take away, so the decision was taken to create a replica cut from a new piece of stone.

We will explain the background to the current conservation project, supported by Glasgow City Heritage Trust, and will see the historic stone cross which has been carefully removed from the church. Attendees will learn the various stages of carving involved, from processing a sandstone block, setting out, initial shaping and hand chiselling the stone down to the finished article, including cutting all the exquisite relief detail.

PPE can be provided if necessary, however it would be helpful if attendees could bring their own hard hats, safety eyewear and hi-viz vests/jackets if they can.

All GCHT CPD sessions are recognised by the IHBC, and attendees can obtain a CPD certificate upon completion.

Spaces are limited to 8 people, booking essential.

£10 per person / £5 for students

 

All sessions are recognised by the Institute of Historic Building Conservation (IHBC) as being capable of contributing to the obligatory CPD requirements of Full Members (see www.ihbc.org.uk)

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Glasgow Historic Environment: A Snapshot – 2019

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Glasgow City Heritage Trust is an independent charity and your support is crucial to ensure that our charitable work promoting the understanding, appreciation and conservation of Glasgow’s historic buildings for the benefit of the city’s communities and its visitors continues now, and in the future.

The easiest way to support the Trust’s work is to join our loyalty scheme. Our tiered loyalty scheme means you can choose the level that’s right for you.

The Knight Map: An Artist’s Process (Glasgow Doors Open Days Festival)

Watercolour pallets sitting on top of a line drawing of Glasgow city centre

Thursday 14th September | 7:30 – 8:30pm | The ARC, University of Glasgow, G11 6EW

Join artist Will Knight to hear about the process for creating this incredible new map of Glasgow, as part of the Glasgow Doors Open Days Festival 2023.

Find out about the inspiration for the project as well as the techniques Will used in order to create the final work – tracing and updating Thomas Sulman’s 1864 Bird’s Eye View of Glasgow. Each working drawing is a step towards the final artwork, but the construction of each layer was thought out and planned with a rigorous process for creating each one.

Will studied Architecture at the Glasgow School of Art, and this training has informed his approach to understanding the dynamic relationship between people and place. He has spent the last ten years observing, recording and interpreting Glasgow’s built environment – from the celebrated work of Alexander ‘Greek’ Thomson to the ubiquitous tiled tenement close; from some of the city’s cherished eateries to the scratch bakery and local newsagent.  Every subject is explored through measurement and drawn by hand, elevating everyday buildings so that they are revealed afresh.

 

Free but booking is essential: Please note booking is managed by Doors Open Days and will be available from 1st September, details to follow. 

You might also be interested in…

Glasgow Historic Environment: A Snapshot – 2019

Ever wondered which buildings in your neighbourhood are listed, or even on Scotland’s Buildings at Risk Register?

Our new interactive map shows data collated between February and April 2018 which gives a snapshot of the current state of Glasgow’s historic built environment.

Blog Post: Ghosts and Zombies

Read our latest blog post about our Ghost Signs of Glasgow project, pondering the nature of ghost signs and what they tell us about the urban landscape.

Enjoy Family Fun with our Kids Trails!

Download our Kid’s Heritage Trails!

Become a Friend of Glasgow City Heritage Trust

Each year, our events help over 2000 people to understand and appreciate Glasgow's irreplaceable built heritage. Can you help us to reach more people?

We are hugely grateful for the support of our Friends whose subscriptions help cover the costs of these events, thereby ensuring accessible pricing for everyone in Glasgow in these challenging times.

The easiest way to support the Trust’s work is to join our Friends scheme. Our tiered loyalty scheme means you can choose the level that’s right for you.

The Glasgow City Improvement Trust and the Transformation of the Victorian City (Glasgow Doors Open Days Festival)

Thursday 14th September | 6 – 7pm | Advanced Research Centre, University of Glasgow, G11 6EW

Join GCHT Director Niall Murphy to find out about the achievements of the Glasgow City Improvement Trust, as part of the Glasgow Doors Open Days Festival 2023.
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Over the course of the 19th Century, Glasgow suffered explosive city growth, with its population increasing from 77,000 in 1801 to 762,000 by 1901. This created problems of overcrowding, poor sanitation and population health issues, with the city’s housing conditions regarded as amongst the worst in Europe.
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To combat this, in 1866 Lord Provost Blackie led a delegation including Glasgow’s Medical Officer of Health, Dr William Tennant Gairdner, and the City Architect, John Carrick to Europe to see what lessons could be learned. Having visited Amsterdam and Brussels it was Baron Haussmann’s Paris where they were most impressed by the urban innovations being introduced for Napoleon III.
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Upon his return to Glasgow, Carrick drew up the City Improvement Act of 1866 with a programme of slum clearance to clear out and introduce light and air to the medieval heart of the city, making Glasgow a pioneer for municipal improvements.

Free but booking is essential: Please note booking is managed by Doors Open Days and will be available from 1st September, details to follow.  

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Glasgow Historic Environment: A Snapshot – 2019

Ever wondered which buildings in your neighbourhood are listed, or even on Scotland’s Buildings at Risk Register?

Our new interactive map shows data collated between February and April 2018 which gives a snapshot of the current state of Glasgow’s historic built environment.

Blog Post: Ghosts and Zombies

Read our latest blog post about our Ghost Signs of Glasgow project, pondering the nature of ghost signs and what they tell us about the urban landscape.

Enjoy Family Fun with our Kids Trails!

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Become a Friend of Glasgow City Heritage Trust

Each year, our events help over 2000 people to understand and appreciate Glasgow's irreplaceable built heritage. Can you help us to reach more people?

We are hugely grateful for the support of our Friends whose subscriptions help cover the costs of these events, thereby ensuring accessible pricing for everyone in Glasgow in these challenging times.

The easiest way to support the Trust’s work is to join our Friends scheme. Our tiered loyalty scheme means you can choose the level that’s right for you.

“Many a chill and lonely vigil”: George McCulloch’s View of Glasgow in 1853 (Online Talk)

A black and white line drawing of Glasgow. McCulloch's 'View'

Wednesday 28th June | 7pm – 8pm | Online, via Zoom

Eleven years before Thomas Sulman’s famous bird’s-eye view of Glasgow appeared in the Illustrated London News, a young local artist named George McCulloch produced his own. It gives a vivid glimpse of the industrial city that had sprung up over the past two generations, smeared with smoke and crowded with activity. David Pritchard will describe what he’s been able to find out about the creation of McCulloch’s View, take you on a tour of some of his favourite details and the human stories they hint at, and think a little about the View in relation to other images of Glasgow, from Thomas Sulman to Will Knight.

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David Pritchard is an adoptive Glaswegian, an occasional mathematician, an enthusiastic but uninformed wanderer of the city’s interesting corners, and a map nerd who spends far too much time in the nineteenth century.

Free, booking essential, donations welcome. 

Please note: Payment is taken via PayPal but you do not need to have a PayPal account to pay online. 

You might also be interested in…

Glasgow Historic Environment: A Snapshot – 2019

Ever wondered which buildings in your neighbourhood are listed, or even on Scotland’s Buildings at Risk Register?

Our new interactive map shows data collated between February and April 2018 which gives a snapshot of the current state of Glasgow’s historic built environment.

Blog Post: Ghosts and Zombies

Read our latest blog post about our Ghost Signs of Glasgow project, pondering the nature of ghost signs and what they tell us about the urban landscape.

Enjoy Family Fun with our Kids Trails!

Download our Kid’s Heritage Trails!

Become a Friend of Glasgow City Heritage Trust

Each year, our events help over 2000 people to understand and appreciate Glasgow's irreplaceable built heritage. Can you help us to reach more people?

We are hugely grateful for the support of our Friends whose subscriptions help cover the costs of these events, thereby ensuring accessible pricing for everyone in Glasgow in these challenging times.

The easiest way to support the Trust’s work is to join our Friends scheme. Our tiered loyalty scheme means you can choose the level that’s right for you.

CPD: Site Visit of Miller Hall

Colour image of Miller Hall

Wednesday 17 May | 12-2pm | On site at Miller Hall, Alexandra Parade, G31 3LN

Miller Hall is an A-listed former church, designed by James Miller in a striking mix of Arts & Crafts and Gothic styles. Previously known as St Andrew’s East Church, the building was converted to flats in the early 2000s.

As the building’s roof is currently undergoing extensive refurbishment, this CPD offers an opportunity to climb the scaffolding and get an up-close look at the works. The on-site tour will be led by the contractor, and will focus on the works being done to repair the roof and high-level masonry, including re-slating, leadwork, and updating the rainwater goods to better cope with climate change.

As this is a working site, spaces are limited to 7 people.

PPE will be provided but please wear safe & comfortable shoes. Climbing of ladders on the scaffolding will be required.

All GCHT CPD sessions are recognised by the IHBC, and attendees can obtain a CPD certificate upon completion.

£10 per person / £5 for students

 

All sessions are recognised by the Institute of Historic Building Conservation (IHBC) as being capable of contributing to the obligatory CPD requirements of Full Members (see www.ihbc.org.uk)

You might also be interested in…

Glasgow Historic Environment: A Snapshot – 2019

Ever wondered which buildings in your neighbourhood are listed, or even on Scotland’s Buildings at Risk Register?

Our new interactive map shows data collated between February and April 2018 which gives a snapshot of the current state of Glasgow’s historic built environment.

Blog Post: Ghosts and Zombies

Read our latest blog post about our Ghost Signs of Glasgow project, pondering the nature of ghost signs and what they tell us about the urban landscape.

Enjoy Family Fun with our Kids Trails!

Download our Kid’s Heritage Trails!

Become a Friend of Glasgow City Heritage Trust

Glasgow City Heritage Trust is an independent charity and your support is crucial to ensure that our charitable work promoting the understanding, appreciation and conservation of Glasgow’s historic buildings for the benefit of the city’s communities and its visitors continues now, and in the future.

The easiest way to support the Trust’s work is to join our loyalty scheme. Our tiered loyalty scheme means you can choose the level that’s right for you.

The Knight Map: An Artist’s Process

Wednesday 10th May | 6:30pm – 7:30pm | The Blythswood Room, The Mitchell Library 

Join artist Will Knight to hear about the process for creating this incredible new map of Glasgow. Find out about the inspiration for the project as well as the techniques Will used in order to create the final work – tracing and updating Thomas Sulman’s 1864 Bird’s Eye View of Glasgow. Each working drawing is a step towards the final artwork, but the construction of each layer was thought out and planned with a rigorous process for creating each one.

Will studied Architecture at the Glasgow School of Art, and this training has informed his approach to understanding the dynamic relationship between people and place. He has spent the last ten years observing, recording and interpreting Glasgow’s built environment – from the celebrated work of Alexander ‘Greek’ Thomson to the ubiquitous tiled tenement close; from some of the city’s cherished eateries to the scratch bakery and local newsagent.  Every subject is explored through measurement and drawn by hand, elevating everyday buildings so that they are revealed afresh.

We will be keeping the exhibition open until 6pm on the night so you can visit the exhibition at the New Glasgow Society on Argyle Street before attending the talk.

 

Free, booking essential, donations welcome. 

Please note: Payment is taken via PayPal but you do not need to have a PayPal account to pay online. 

You might also be interested in…

Glasgow Historic Environment: A Snapshot – 2019

Ever wondered which buildings in your neighbourhood are listed, or even on Scotland’s Buildings at Risk Register?

Our new interactive map shows data collated between February and April 2018 which gives a snapshot of the current state of Glasgow’s historic built environment.

Blog Post: Ghosts and Zombies

Read our latest blog post about our Ghost Signs of Glasgow project, pondering the nature of ghost signs and what they tell us about the urban landscape.

Enjoy Family Fun with our Kids Trails!

Download our Kid’s Heritage Trails!

Become a Friend of Glasgow City Heritage Trust

Each year, our events help over 2000 people to understand and appreciate Glasgow's irreplaceable built heritage. Can you help us to reach more people?

We are hugely grateful for the support of our Friends whose subscriptions help cover the costs of these events, thereby ensuring accessible pricing for everyone in Glasgow in these challenging times.

The easiest way to support the Trust’s work is to join our Friends scheme. Our tiered loyalty scheme means you can choose the level that’s right for you.

Craft and Traditional Skills Careers

Photo of someone chiseling a piece of stone, wearing orange and yellow gloves, with traditional stone caring tools in the background.

As Scotland’s historic buildings and places are a unique resource, taking care of them requires expert skills and knowledge. But these skills are often in short supply. Training to work in a craft or traditional skills role could offer you ample opportunities and a chance to work in a sector that is wide, vibrant and exciting.

New Director Announcement

Glasgow City Heritage Trust are delighted to announce the appointment of Niall Murphy as the Trust’s new Director.

Originally from Hong Kong, Niall studied at the Mackintosh School of Architecture and practiced architecture in Edinburgh, Berlin and Hong Kong before settling in Glasgow. Having retrained as a conservation architect with conservation specialists Peter Drummond Architects, Niall joined the Trust as Grants Officer in 2016 and has been Deputy Director since mid 2017.

Niall is currently Chair of Govanhill Baths Building Preservation Trust. Previously, Niall was chair of Pollokshields Heritage, Planning Convener for Pollokshields Community Council and a member of the Glasgow Urban Design Panel. From 2016 – 2018 he was a member of the Development Management Working Group for the Scottish Government’s Planning Review.

Niall has won two Glasgow Doors Open Day Awards (in 2014 and 2017) on the strength of his walking tours, the Sir Robert Lorimer Award for his sketches (in 1996) and was nominated for the Scottish Civic Trust’s My Place Award for Civic Champion in 2015. Niall regularly lectures on architecture, heritage and urban design issues and hosts the Trust’s “If Glasgow’s Walls could Talk” podcast.

Glasgow City Heritage Trust Trustees said:

‘We are very fortunate to have Niall in this role and know he will be a sure foundation for progress at GCHT. Our congratulations to Niall!’

Niall Murphy, new Glasgow City Heritage Trust Director, said:

‘To take on the role of the Director of Glasgow City Heritage Trust is an honour. Glasgow is my adopted home and I feel a deep affection for the city and its citizens. My hope is that in some small way via this new role, I will leave Glasgow, and its superb built heritage, in a better condition than when I found it. I look forward to working with our talented team and Trustees to that end.’

Designer Brief: The Knight Map Exhibition

GCHT is inviting tenders for the design of our upcoming exhibition, which will showcase Glasgow’s historic built environment through the artist Will Knight’s recently completed map of the city.

Click here for the full design brief

Deadline: 10th March, 2023 at 9:00am

Enquiries and submissions should be made by email to: info@glasgowheritage.org.uk